Y’know, safaris were
a childhood dream of mine. Ever since I was little
I’ve wanted to see animals. Instead of toy men,
you played with animals. Yeah! I played with toy men
much later! But I’ve always wanted
to see them. My favorite animal ever
was the rhino. I’ve always wanted to see it.
The first time I went, our plane landed
in the middle of nowhere. The guide was waiting for me
in a jeep. I walked 650ft and there were eight lions
sprawled, asleep. When I saw that, I said: “I’m coming back here. I have to bring
other people.” So I went back the next year,
and again. It’s one of the most amazing things,
being inside a jeep over here and 3ft away there’s a leopard
strolling by. This kind of thing
disconnects you… It gives you perspective. That’s why
Haroldo did some 20 safaris, right? -No, at least 50.
-Wow! I did 4!
This is humiliating. You went 50 times? Since 1986 I’ve been going on safaris. From 2003 onwards, I started
organizing safaris. It’s a fascination of mine,
so I go at least two or three times a year
to Africa taking groups of people
with me. Small groups, like six, eight, ten people at best. -And they all return?
-Yes, they all return alive. Do you get this a lot?
I talk a lot about safaris, and these trips. And people are scared!
They’re like, “I’d never do that!” -Do you get this?
-I was scared when I was there. -You were scared?
-Panicked. You’re in an open jeep and suddenly face to face
with a lion, staring at you. Who knows if he’s eaten?
He could rip out your arm! -Did he sign a permit?
-Who says you’re safe there? Sometimes
you don’t feel safe at all. All the time I was thinking: “No, it’ll be okay, he’s eaten,
he’s not even looking at me.” -I got scared.
-No, no. We’re not in the lion’s menu,
or the leopard’s, or the cheetah’s. They know we’re inside
a metal car. So they’ll never attack you. The only animal
who might try funny stuff… -“Funny stuff”.
-Lethal funny stuff. Are adolescent elephants. Elephants are really… -Yeah.
-They’re teenagers. They try things,
so the guide, the driver will do what they must,
which is to go into reverse. The guide is your compass.
If they’re calm… They don’t wanna die,
either! -It’s hard when you’re the guide.
-Yeah, that’s harder! You know, if I’d seen this show
before my safari I’d have panicked over
what happened to me. My car was stuck in the mud. I spent the night inside. -Inside the car?
-Yeah. Was it open? I put a screen this thick,
scared of animal attacks. I was also scared of malaria
and stuff. We went to a place called
Rhino Lake. When I started, they cautioned me
to never leave the car. She said:
“Don’t leave the car, but you can go wherever you want,
it hasn’t rained lately so the earth is dry.” -But that place was kinda wet.
-You were driving? Yeah, I myself drove.
It was me and two friends. I was like, “I’m gonna avoid
that wet ground there.” My friend told me no,
that it was okay. So off I went,
straight into the mud. Was it a jeep? It was the cheapest
rental car available. I drove around with it. There we were,
waiting for help. Could you call someone? We could’ve, but… I drove myself too,
but I didn’t do these insane things. The best advice
for a Namibia safari: get a 4WD and take
camping equipment. Go camping,
there’re some great places for it. You pay a fortune
if you stay in a lodge. We didn’t make this mistake
there. We bought phone credit at reception. They told us:
“If you get stuck, call us.” -How do you get out?
-Nobody told me anything! They just said: “Enjoy,
go wherever you want.” -Live your life!
-“Don’t worry!” So that’s what I did,
until we got in trouble. At one point a bunch of rhinos
started gathering around. How many rhinos? -How many friends?
-About 10. Maybe 15. I’d constantly look around,
and there were tons of them. They just stood still. When I looked ahead,
there was one right beside us, like that scene
from “Jurassic Park”. -I felt we were doomed.
-Did you take pics? I did,
but shaking with fear. -Haroldo doesn’t even flinch!
-I know! I said: “Let’s stay here,
stay cool.” My friend was like:
“Honk! Honk at them!” “Are you crazy, man?”
And he’d honk! After he honked,
it was chaos. I managed to calm us down. The rhinos were curious,
but they went off. In the directions, the advice was
always “Don’t leave the car.” Written two hundred times. -At 10am, we were getting desperate.
-Didn’t you wanna pee? After a while we started
getting out of the car. I tried fetching water
in the lake. -There could be crocodiles!
-I know! I’m gonna adopt this child,
he’s so traumatized… -Poor thing!
-We got stuck at 2 or 3pm and only got rescued
next morning. We’re talking about
these fears, but it’s much less dangerous
and much more chill to watch them because you’re in the middle
of the savannah. -It’s their turf.
-Exactly. It’s a tense environment for us,
who aren’t part of that world. You can’t leave your tent
at night… You can’t just
walk around freely. There are lions around,
leopards. TIPS If you can’t afford to rent
a four-wheel drive like me, get tire insurance. Mine were pierced 6 times
and ripped twice. And fix your tires
as soon as you see a repair shop. THE BIG 5 What are the big 5?
Who are they? -The big 5 are lions, leopards…
-Leopards. Elephants, buffalos… -Buffalos?
-They’re one of the big 5. -Really?
-And rhinos. You know why
they’re called big 5? They were
the most dangerous. When English hunters
would kill them… -Not photographic safaris like ours.
-Yeah. The danger was higher, and these were
the most dangerous animals. Which are most likely
to eat us? The animal that kills the most
in Africa is malaria. I mean, the mosquito
that transmits it. The good thing about Namibia is that, for 11 months
a year, there’s no risk at all
since it’s all so dry. -There’re no mosquitoes.
-I went in the rainy season. -You did?
-That’s why we bought a screen! Tons of repellents… Best time for malaria
and for getting stuck in the mud. -And the worst friends.
-In my case, I didn’t really plan it.
In the middle of the night there was a great travel deal
so I bought it. These deals are always
for the rainy season! -Exactly!
-“Screw you” type of deal. That’s why it was so cheap! WHERE CAN YOU GO
ON A SAFARI? What are the African countries
that have safaris? I know 37 African countries,
so I can… -You can give some options.
-Yeah. -If someone asked…
-I’d say the best ones are Namibia, Tanzania… -South Africa’s a bit commercial.
-I find it a bit dull. Yeah, I prefer Namibia. -Botswana…
-People like it, though. And there’s another one.
It’s African, but it’s an island,
Madagascar. You won’t be seeing
large mammals -but it’s great for seeing lemurs.
-Lemurs. I saw that episode. But it’s the same process.
You search for animals. In fact, do you know what
“safari” means? It’s Swahili.
When you leave a city, there’s a sign written
“Safari njema”, which means “good journey”. -Really?
-So safari means journey, expedition. So it doesn’t mean “good”,
it means “journey”. It’s not supposed
to be good! Which countries
did you visit? I went on a safari
in Namibia, and then I went to Tanzania,
to the Ngorongoro Crater. Ngorongoro. It was the most
amazing thing I’ve ever seen. It was transcendental.
I even cried. The crater’s 7,500ft deep. It’s an inactive crater, the biggest in the world,
I think. It’s 15 miles wide. It’s amazing how
there’re tons of ecosystems. Tons of animals,
it’s like Noah’s Ark. The animals all passing by. We were in a car with a kind
of sunroof for you to look from. Then a lioness passed
brushing against our car. The animals come to you. Then a hyena
passed by the lioness. Then there’s a lake
full of hippos. And a bunch of birds
surrounding it. Then you see some elephants
hidden in the bushes. It’s like you’re
in an open zoo, or in Noah’s Ark. That was just…
It was hard to believe it was real. -Were we really seeing that?
-I’m jealous, none of that happened
with me. I think I came here to say
what not to do. I had none
of those experiences! I camped all the way through
my trip. In Ngorongoro, they laid out
a circle with all the cars in our group
to protect the camp. But at night, an elephant
had invaded the camp -to eat our garbage.
-An adolescent. Probably, it was big. It was pretty big. They’d honk and honk
but it couldn’t care less. It got what it wanted
and just went away quietly. The tents were
in another camp, which was lucky. The elephant went to our picnic
tables, got what it wanted and left. There’s a book called
“Whatever You Do, Don’t Run”. -Interesting!
-That’s it, that’s Africa for you. Whatever you do, never run. You’ll inevitably lose.
Any animal can outrun you. They climb trees better,
they run faster, they know the area better. They’re used to this place,
so it’s better to stand still and just stare… I know it’s
easier said than done. I went to Etosha in Namibia and to Hlane Royal
in Swaziland. I didn’t plan to go there. I’d wanted to visit Kruger, but I drove by Hlane Royal
and decided to go in. But I drove myself.
As we were saying here, -don’t ever do the driving yourself.
-Yeah. -It’s a mistake, you don’t have…
-I think you can… -She liked self-driving.
-But the guide knows things. They just look and say:
“There’s the lion.” You’re just like,
“What? Where?” Because you don’t know
how to look. It’s all yellow to you. You can’t distinguish. You only see the lion
right in your face. “Whoa, it’s here!” The guide watches the birds,
which are watching the lions. They see where the Thomson’s gazelle
is looking at. They feel the wind shifts.
They know stuff. Is Thomson like,
a designer gazelle? -Prada, Gucci, Thomson?
-Thomson’s gazelles are the most killed preys. The ones you root against. -You want them to be eaten.
-I wanted a guided tour in Kruger. But after all that stuff happened
I swore off safaris for 10 years. Do something else first. ‘Cause you went on your own
in your first safari! I thought it was gonna be
an adventure! I didn’t think it was gonna be
95% boredom, since I barely saw any animals,
because I couldn’t find them. A friend said: “I’m taking a nap,
if you see something, call me.” Google it. TIPS My advice is that, if you’re crossing Tanzania
like I did, and you’re not fond of trekking
or don’t wanna climb Kilimanjaro, at least visit the park. It’s awesome,
the view is amazing. I went on tour with the intention
of camping. So every day we’d reach a campsite,
pitch tents, and camp. I went from Zanzibar to Uganda
circumventing Lake Victoria. We’d arrive, camp,
stay a couple days and visit a park.
We camped inside Serengeti, in Maasai Mara, by the edge
of the Ngorongoro Crater… -With tents and all?
-Yeah. What about Zanzibar?
Does it live up to the hype? -It’s very beautiful.
-Really? -It’s in Tanzania.
-The name Tanzania comes from “Tanganyika”
and “Zanzibar”. So when the territories
were unified, the country got named
Tanzania. But Zanzibar doesn’t accept it,
so to get in -they need to stamp your passport.
-That’s true. -It’s a separate country?
-They’re really proud. It’s like a separate country.
You need a new stamp. -Are the beaches truly pretty?
-Gorgeous. It’s a fantastic place
for snorkeling. You see lots of things
close to the shore. Reefs, fish… it’s wonderful. And what are the people like?
-Are they youths? Stone Town, the most central area,
which I prefer to the beaches, has this historic
Muslim vibe. -Muslim, Portuguese, Indian.
-Lots of religions. The architecture’s
very cool. It’s an ancient region. I found Stone Town
very interesting. There are bars
and young people, too. Europeans travel a lot. They’re
everywhere, especially Germans. FACE TO FACE WITH GORILLAS -I did that one…
-In Rwanda? It’s a hike you can do
in Rwanda, -Uganda or Congo.
-Right. -Congo has ebola…
-It’s also the most violent, right? Congo’s the cheapest. -It’s a deal!
-Straight from Swaziland! -Ebola and malaria!
-I went to Rwanda and Uganda. Both were spectacular, but costs have doubled
recently. But it’s an amazing
experience. Did you stay among gorillas? It was the most amazing thing
I’ve ever done. The crater and the gorillas. How far were you
from the gorillas? When you get there, there’s the
Bwindi Impenetrable National Park. -Bwindi.
-Bwindi. You gotta watch a lecture,
it’s all serious. If you have a flu,
you can’t enter. It’s a rain forest
in a mountainous area. There’s no trail. The guide
clears the way with a machete. Because the gorillas
are not waiting for you. But the guide knows
where the gorillas sleep. In 40 minutes,
we saw an alpha male this close. Just over there. -I was like…
-Was there like, toxic masculinity? Right on Valentine’s Day, I ran into an alpha male.
I went crazy. And you trip a lot because
there’re so many leaves. It’s very humid.
It’s sunny and rainy. -And the mosquitoes.
-Tell me about it! Another advice they give
is to wear gloves. Because the trees…
But we were like: “I’m from Rio. What am I gonna
buy gloves for?” -Seriously, buy the gloves.
-Buy a complete outfit. -I bought the gloves.
-I didn’t. -I bought it because…
-I busted my hands. In the end I looked like
I’d been run over by a car. -But I was happy.
-Did you make eye contact -with the gorillas?
-Yes! They were making eyes at me! -I even filmed it.
-They advise against that, actually. Against looking them
in the eye. What you should do is,
in case he looks at you, you look down. Usually they allow you to get
as close as 23ft. But that’s for us,
not the gorillas. They can come very close
if you happen to be on their way. An alpha male passed me by like,
10 inches away. -Did you look down?
-I didn’t. You thought: “How cute!”
How did it go? I’m a biologist, so I get emotional
with these things. Their smell
is very different. -Where did you go?
-I went to Rwanda. I spent two days there.
It’s an amazing experience. You hike around with guides
carrying machetes. And they speak to the gorillas,
make noises. I walked around
for an hour and a half until we arrived
in this glade. There were 20 gorillas there.
Twenty! -And this lady gorilla passed by me.
-Lady gorilla. -Like Monga.
-Yeah, Monga. She brushed past me. We watched them
feeding on bamboos. So we were just there,
watching the gorillas, when one of them,
out of the blue, came to me and was like… -Jesus!
-He stood this close and started doing that. -You can’t run.
-So you started praying. I looked down,
he went back to his place -and sat down. He was showing…
-He was marking his territory. But is that really safe?
I always wonder if it’s safe. When was the last time you heard
of gorillas eating tourists? True. SAFARI IN GROUPS I went with large groups,
so we had the car to ourselves. But like, if it’s just you
and your husband, you may not need to share a car,
but usually you will. Sometimes they wanna see
something you don’t… You wanna watch the lion hunting,
but they don’t. My experience
was completely different. Namibia is much better
in groups. So we’d decided to form a group
in the comments section. You went with a group
of blog commenters? -Exactly.
-Not your actual friends. I managed to convince
a friend of mine. My friend Miguel,
I convinced him. I wrote in the blog:
“I’m going to Namibia in these days. If anyone wants to go…” Many people replied,
so we formed a group. Then we discussed the places
each wanted to see and got divided
into smaller groups. So I went with six people
in two cars. -You, Miguel and four…
-Miguel invited a friend. And we didn’t know
the others. We had a lot of minor problems.
For instance, you said you’re a biologist.
One guy, Mateus, was also a biologist.
He’d stop to watch any insect. -And we wanted to keep going.
-I took pics of snails. Snail! Stop to see a snail! This episode is so much fun
and we have so much to talk about that it’s gonna be divided
in two parts. We can’t talk just a little. We’re gonna chop
you guys in half. We shared some stories
already. If you liked it
and want to see more, keep watching, because there’s gonna be
a part 2. We’re gonna tell
even more stories.